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The Dice Project


DICE Meeting 2002-06-11

JCMB 2511, KB, 11am-1pm.

Agenda

  1. Corrections to minutes
  2. Actions Arising from minutes of meeting of 2002-05-28
  3. Timetable
Apologies: Tim, Alison

Decisions

  1. Filesystem Maps:
    ltg
    to appear as /legacy/ltg. (Other groups such as CSTR, AIAI and ANC have still to be decided.)
    DCS student projects:
    to appear as /projects/<thing> where 'thing' is not a user.
    aisubmit
    will use /home/submit

Actions summary

NB: this section includes:
  1. Actions Arising - Doc types: Deployment tasks need to notify what documents they will be producing. (noted 2002-03-05)
    [Alison/Jeremy]
  2. Actions Arising - DICE deployment publicity: Site managers should make sure that this publicity is provided. (noted 2002-03-19)
    [Alastair/Jeremy/Ken]
  3. Actions Arising - Conversion of accounts to UUN: Final UUNs being sorted out (noted 2002-02-19)
    [Roger]
  4. Actions Arising - MIS feed: check about getting data direct. (noted 2002-04-02)
    [Neil]
  5. Actions Arising - Common Home Directories: List of 'top ten' groups from each site to be finalised (noted 2002-05-14)
    [Roger]
  6. Actions Arising - Timetable: update progress page milestones with timetable dates. (noted 2002-04-30)
    [All]
  7. Actions Arising - Groups Load group name<->GID mappings into LDAP. (noted 2002-05-14)
    [Roger/Bill]
  8. Actions Arising - Hardware Remaining server hardware to be ordered. (noted 2002-05-14)
    [Alastair]
  9. Actions Arising - SSH/Kerberos: intro note about not using public keys with SSH (noted 2002-05-28)
    [Alison]
  10. Actions Arising - Milestones/bugzilla: add them to bugzilla.inf (noted 2002-05-28)
    [Jeremy]
  11. Actions Arising - COs/DICE all remaining non-DICE machine COs to use DICE. (noted 2002-05-28)
    [non-DICE COs]
  12. Actions Arising - Kerberos principals: resolve for new accounts (noted 2002-05-28)
    [Neil/Simon]
  13. Actions Arising - amd: still being investigated (noted 2002-05-28)
    [George/Alastair]
  14. Actions Arising - Trusted host list: generate list automatically for LDAP (noted 2002-05-28)
    [Simon]
  15. Searchable cos@inf : tweak Harvester config (noted 2002-06-11)
    [Neil]
  16. Partitions: check file (noted 2002-06-11)
    [John/Bill/Iain]
  17. rfeable files: add list option to rfe (noted 2002-06-11)
    [Simon]
  18. Holidays page: put holiday dates on line (noted 2002-06-11)
    [Jeremy]
  19. Package updates mailing list: create list (noted 2002-06-11)
    [Jeremy]
  20. eduni.inf :: request hierarchy on EUCS news servers. (noted 2002-06-11)
    [Neil]

Minutes

  1. Corrections to minutes of 2002-05-28

  2. Matters arising from minutes of last meeting (2002-05-28)

    1. Actions Arising: machine purchase CEG to discuss machine purchase mechanism. (noted 2002-02-19) [Alastair/Jeremy/Ken]
      Machines and monitors ordered
      Done
    2. Actions Arising - teaching software:
      A summary message is due to go to all teaching staff. It was also suggested that tutors and lab demonstrators, where known for next year, need to be included in the pilot process.
      Done
    3. Actions Arising - faster deployment: Use of XDM and issues of speeding up deployment of DICE. [CEG].

      Agreed that we can replace all clients with DICE machines by Summer 2003.

      Done
    4. Actions Arising - Doc types: Deployment tasks need to notify Alison what types of documents they will be producing. [All deployment task 'owners'].

      Little progress. Jeremy to discuss wiht Alison methods for extracting this information from COs.

      Ongoing

      Carwyn is going to take over from Lex the auto-generation of docs and package lists for LCFG and DICE.

    5. Actions Arising - DICE deployment publicity: Site managers should make sure that this publicity is provided. [Alastair/Jeremy/Ken]
      Ongoing
    6. Actions Arising - Conversion of accounts to UUN: Site managers should contact those users who will need to change their username to warn them again of the need for the change. [Alastair/Jeremy/Ken]
      Ongoing

      Final UUN changes are being clarified with Christine Rees. [Roger]

      Ongoing
    7. Actions Arising - Filesystem Maps:

      Decisions:

      ltg
      to appear as /legacy/ltg. (Other groups such as CSTR, AIAI and ANC have still to be decided.)
      DCS student projects:
      to appear as /projects/<thing> where 'thing' is not a user.
      aisubmit
      will use /home/submit
      Done
    8. Actions Arising - MIS feed: check about getting data direct.[Neil]
      Waiting for the feed to be setup in due course.
      Ongoing
    9. Actions Arising - Common Home Directories: unification of groups. [Roger]. List of 'top ten' groups from each site needs to be finalised
      Ongoing
    10. Actions Arising - Backups. A person responsible needs to be allocated to the stage 1 task. (noted 2002-04-02) [CEG]

      Bill is looking into setting up local drives and using amanda server on mailhub and homepages servers.

      Done
    11. Timetable: update milestones with timetable dates. (noted 2002-04-30) [All]
      Ongoing
    12. Groups Load group name to GID mappings into LDAP. (noted 2002-05-14)[Roger/Bill]
      Ongoing
    13. Spam: Get EUCS configuration for filtering mail from blacklisted sites. (noted 2002-05-14)

      This will be included in the sendmail.cf that we will get from EUCS.

      Done
    14. Hardware Remaining server hardware to be ordered. (noted 2002-05-14) [Alastair]
      Login servers still to be spec'ed but can also use existing machines.
      Ongoing
    15. ssh/Kerberos:Add note on use of public keys vs. Kerberos credentials. (noted 2002-05-28).
      Ongoing
    16. Milestones/bugzilla: Simon suggested it would be useful to add the milestones to bugzilla. Needed extra permissions from Simon. (noted 2002-05-28) [Jeremy]
      Ongoing
    17. Common Home Directories: Decision is that sites will move en masse after Examiner's Meetings
      Done
    18. COs using DICE: COs need to move to using DICE machines by 31/5 where possible. (noted 2002-05-28) [non-DICE COs]
      Ongoing
    19. Automail bug reports : Gate new bug reports into cos@inf.
      Done
    20. Kerberos principals for new accounts: Resolve how this is being done. [Neil/Simon]
      Ongoing
    21. amd: this seems to be related largely to laptops but is being investigated. [George/Alastair]
      Ongoing
    22. XDM: the XDM component needs to be ported. [George]

      Done, but may be superseded by KDM. Some systems complain about a missing Shape extension this may be a fork of an earlier Xfree86 bug.

      Done
    23. Trusted inf hosts generate list and populating LDAP. [Simon]
      Ongoing

    24. Timetable: provide graphical version.
      Done
  3. Disseminating DICE info

    There was a discussion about how to improve the spread of DICE knowledge. Proposals:

  4. Partitions & rfe

    The partitions file needs to be checked (rfe -g partitions) to make sure it is up-to-date.

    [ACTION: John/Bill/Iain]

    There is no way to get a list of all rfe-able files at the moment. Simon will look into an option to rfe so that it will list them.

    [ACTION: Simon]

  5. Timetable Review

    The following were noted as 'done':

    The following dates were revised:

    Login servers: there will be one ssh multi-user server and each site should make available a public access DICE machine/console for people to test.

    Other servers: all remaining servers are either at sites or ready to be installed.

    The revised timetable is here.

  6. General Issues

    The infrastructure task met on 2002-05-31 (minutes).

    A holidays page needs to be put online, with an indication of who is covering while the person is away.

    [ACTION: Jeremy]

    Computing Committee requested easy access to information about updates to packages. We will provide a mailing list initially and this will probably be gated into a newsgroup.

    [ACTION: Jeremy]

    We will need a eduni.inf news hierarchy. This needs to be requested from EUCS.

    [ACTION: Neil]


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